Max Speed

Discussion in 'Newbies' started by Baconus_Yum, Nov 23, 2016.

  1. Baconus_Yum

    Baconus_Yum Administrator Beta Deluxe Canary Moderator Sumo - GSO Sumo - GeoCorp Sumo - Hawkeye Lemon Kingdom

    Welp, I was bored, so I calculated the max speed of wheels.

    These max speeds will be calculated by this (There will be a few Exceptions):
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    Now, these will only be calculated with 2 wheels (With Some Exceptions). The 2 Wheels will be on the sides of the Cab (with some exceptions).

    Here they are, in no particular order. If you want specific stats for a certain type of wheel, click on it's tab.

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    12 MPH
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    Hard to Calculate, because it kept shaking. But 30 MPH
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    17 MPH
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    Also Hard to calculate, but 11 MPH
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    31 MPH
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    20 MPH
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    53 MPH
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    52 MPH
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    53 MPH
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    18 MPH
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    25 MPH
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    THIS WAS SUPER BUGGY! I got different results every time. But the max of it all was 41 MPH
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    32 MPH
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    23 MPH
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    34 MPH
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    72 MPH
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    85 MPH
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    96 MPH
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    71 MPH
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    71 MPH
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    35 MPH
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    38 MPH
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    23 MPH
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    30 MPH

    If you just want to skip stuff, Click the Leaderboard of Wheels.
    1. Venture Springer Wheel: 96 MPH
    2. Venture Globe Trotter Wheel: 85 MPH
    3. Venture Zoomer Wheel: 72 MPH
    4. Hawkeye Straight Bike Wheel: 71 MPH
    = Hawkeye Angled Bike Wheel: 71 MPH
    6. GSO Dirt Wheel: 53 MPH
    = GSO Riser Wheel: 53 MPH
    8. GSO Hub WHeel: 52 MPH
    9. GEOCorp Jaws Wheel: 41 MPH
    10. Hawkeye Garrison Wheel: 38 MPH
    11. Hawkeye Tread WHeel: 35 MPH
    12. Venture Landing Gear Wheel: 34 MPH
    13. GEOCorp Big-Boy Wheel: 32 MPH
    14: GSO Little Trekker Wheel: 31 MPH
    15: Hawkeye Tank Tracks: 30 MPH
    = Venture Cab: 30 MPH
    17: GEOCorp Rugged Wheel: 25 MPH
    18: GEOCorp Big-Boy Wheel: 23 MPH
    = Hawkeye Wing Wheel: 23 MPH
    20. GSO Stabiliser Wheel: 20 MPH
    21. GEOCorp Krusher Wheel: 18 MPH
    22. GEOCorp Cab: 17 MPH
    23. GSO Cab: 12 MPH
    24. Hawkeye Cab: 11 MPH

    -Baconus
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2016
  2. Pink Kitty

    Pink Kitty Well-Known Member Beta Deluxe

    Some of these numbers are going to be a bit off.
    Specifically, venture wheels.
    They actually have more power, but because their grip is so bad, they actually slip, even in a straight line.

    You'll find they go faster if they have spoilers improving the grip.
    But probably not with the design you have here.
     
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  3. Andre Salvador Rainha

    Andre Salvador Rainha Well-Known Member Beta Deluxe TT Translator GrabIt Dev

    Great, some raw data I was curious about :3

    Cheers
     
  4. Darkdc119

    Darkdc119 Well-Known Member Beta Deluxe

    Correct but not only that i found out that the Venture Zoomer wheel can go much faster if u combine Hawk-Eye tech , yes faster then the trotter and the springer wheel from Venture . Its all in the grip. terrain can also be a factor. And btw the Jaws wheel is incorect it does not exceed 28\29 mph don`t know how you tested it but mine gives always 28\29 mph
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2016
  5. Pink Kitty

    Pink Kitty Well-Known Member Beta Deluxe

    Can you post a snapshot of a hawk/venture tech that does this please?
     
  6. Baconus_Yum

    Baconus_Yum Administrator Beta Deluxe Canary Moderator Sumo - GSO Sumo - GeoCorp Sumo - Hawkeye Lemon Kingdom

    Ok, starting the 4 wheel now. I will now make this into a series of tests.
    Here is the layout for this max speed test:
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    Same rules will apply as last time, but there are 4 wheels now. Also Hawkeye Angled Bike Wheels will no longer be under the tech. Also no cabs (except GSO) will be included. Also, all wheels will be placed in a way to maximize wheel efficiency.
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    12 MPH
    (This tech makes me laugh for some reason.)
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    31 MPH
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    19 MPH
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    52 MPH
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    53 MPH
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    52 MPH
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    19 MPH
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    25 MPH
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    28 MPH
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    31 MPH
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    23 MPH
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    34 MPH
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    79 MPH
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    90 MPH
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    97 MPH
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    72 MPH
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    72 MPH
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    34 MPH
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    38 MPH
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    23 MPH
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    30 MPH

    If you just want to skip all of this, here is the leaderboard:
    1. Ven Springer Wheel: 97 MPH
    2. Ven Globe Trotter Wheel: 90 MPH
    3. Ven Zoomer Wheel: 79 MPH
    4. HAWK Angled Bike Wheel: 72 MPH
    = HAWK Straight Bike Wheel: 72 MPH
    6. GSO Hub Wheel: 53 MPH
    7. GSO Dirt Wheel: 52 MPH
    = GSO Riser Wheel: 52 MPH
    9. HAWK Garrison Wheel: 38 MPH
    10. Ven Landing Gear Wheel: 34 MPH
    = HAWK Tread Wheel
    12. GSO Little Trekker Wheel: 31 MPH
    = GEOCorp Workaday Wheel: 31 MPH
    14. HAWK Tank Tracks: 30 MPH
    15. GEOCorp JAWS Wheel: 28 MPH
    16. GEOCorp Rugged Wheel: 25 MPH
    17. GEOCorp Big-Boy Wheel: 23 MPH
    = HAWK Wing Wheel: 23 MPH
    19. GSO Stabiliser Wheel: 19 MPH
    = GEOCorp Krusher Wheel: 19 MPH
    21. GSO Cab: 12 MPH

    -Baconus
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2016
  7. Pink Kitty

    Pink Kitty Well-Known Member Beta Deluxe

    Probably only make a noticeable difference on the Venture wheels.
    At least, that's been my experience :)
     
  8. Baconus_Yum

    Baconus_Yum Administrator Beta Deluxe Canary Moderator Sumo - GSO Sumo - GeoCorp Sumo - Hawkeye Lemon Kingdom

    Rest of the 4-Wheel test is finished!
     
  9. Greystar

    Greystar Well-Known Member Beta Deluxe

    Can max speed be affected by adding the rotors and whatnot in addition to wheels? Trying to find ways to make my GEOtechs faster.
     
  10. Pink Kitty

    Pink Kitty Well-Known Member Beta Deluxe

    Yep.
    Standard 'trick' is to use fans instead of blocks to make your big tech faster.
    Much easier now with tougher and more easily mounted HE fans.
     
  11. Pink Kitty

    Pink Kitty Well-Known Member Beta Deluxe

    Unless they've changed it, you can get 112 out of springer wheels.
    Might need more spoilers.
     
  12. ZenithEevee

    ZenithEevee Well-Known Member Beta Deluxe

    hmmm...

    Any data on how many GSO basic blocks can occupy a wheel before it overbears?
     
  13. Darkdc119

    Darkdc119 Well-Known Member Beta Deluxe

    I can do better than that .

    First test with Venture Springer Wheels = 150 MPH
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    Second test Venture Globe Trotter Wheels = 165 MPH
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    Last Venture Zoomer Wheels = 172 MPH

    The reason i put jets on it is because at slower speed u can see a slightly change in speed when u put jets on it the different is bigger an can calculate more precisely .

    Here is my test clip



    So u see its all about grib the heaviere the tech the more grib BUT when it is to heavy it will deteriorate the wheels.
    Sorry had a lot of lag and sound problems while recording this
     

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    Last edited: Dec 5, 2016
  14. Darkdc119

    Darkdc119 Well-Known Member Beta Deluxe

    It can go faster if u replace your fans and use the "mass" of it to use GSO boosters instead , 1 GSo fan is equal to 4 Gso boosters slightly heavier but MUCH faster just test it u see what i mean .
    tested it with all wheels and 4 fans , replaced all 4 fans for 16 boosters and the difrents is about 10 to 12 MPH
     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2016
  15. Baconus_Yum

    Baconus_Yum Administrator Beta Deluxe Canary Moderator Sumo - GSO Sumo - GeoCorp Sumo - Hawkeye Lemon Kingdom

    the boosters make a tech faster...
     
  16. Darkdc119

    Darkdc119 Well-Known Member Beta Deluxe

    haha you did the math to ....
     
  17. Baconus_Yum

    Baconus_Yum Administrator Beta Deluxe Canary Moderator Sumo - GSO Sumo - GeoCorp Sumo - Hawkeye Lemon Kingdom

    I am measuring RAW WHEEL POWER. This is just the power of the wheels in general. Boosters give extra power.
     
  18. Darkdc119

    Darkdc119 Well-Known Member Beta Deluxe

    Yes i realise that but i was referring it to pink that uses extra blocks to go make a wheel go faster that is the same as using a power block to find out if it makes adifrents in speed if not using the power block like a spoiler gives the wheel more speed power is the same as giving more speed to the tech equals wheels .
    i do not dispute your testing in making a wheel go faster because raw power alone without any extra tools will give always the same result . A cab is also aform of power if you do not have it the wheel does not move. I hope you get where i`m going.
     
  19. Darkdc119

    Darkdc119 Well-Known Member Beta Deluxe

    Let me put it in another way if Wheel A. plus Block B gives power to Wheel A. then the speed is X if we loose Block B. then Wheel A. looses speed. so a better calculation is there for using a power block we have . now we have to determent what is the biggest power block or even better the most efficient power block to test the speed of Wheel A.
    In this case we are in a agreement that the GSO Booster is the most powerful and efficient power block there is , so now we can determent speed of Wheel A.The calculation is not the power but the speed so lets say Venture zoomer wheel has a speed with a Gso Cab and extra attachment for weight 72 MPH then it should give the same Wheel plus cab and HE Jet 172 MPH . we have now have 2 different data`s so if we want RAW WHEEL POWER we need to abstract the extra power plus attachment . so 172 MPH - 72 MPH is a 100 MPH difference so now we can conclude that raw wheel power is 100 MPH
     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2016
  20. Baconus_Yum

    Baconus_Yum Administrator Beta Deluxe Canary Moderator Sumo - GSO Sumo - GeoCorp Sumo - Hawkeye Lemon Kingdom

    no.
     
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