Bulk crafting

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  1. Khaine

    Khaine Well-Known Member

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    I would never have guessed it either, don't feel too dumb :)

     
  2. Deutsche Würfel

    Deutsche Würfel I look good in this dress.

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    No. stuff still has to be unlocked. But you can make stuff before you can buy it. However, the component factory is so low level that you can make it at any point.
    Example: try building a megaton, as soon as you get a fabber. Does not even show.

     
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  3. ZeroGravitas

    ZeroGravitas Breaker of Games

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    Yes, but still only blocks within the licence level you have unlocked (as @Deutsche Würfel says). So you can't make a Component Factory at GSO level 2 right after getting a Fabricator from Crafty Business II. But grinding XP from other missions suddenly opens up the Fabricator menu when you level up.

    Think of XP as earning the trust of the corporations to use their increasingly hi-tech IP (intellectual property). Which means that Fabricators have depressingly unbreakable DRM locks...:(

    When naughty invaders drop with blocks beyond your current level, that also unlocks them (if you put them in your inventory). That sequence breaking has been annoying me a little in my current playthrough, since getting even one GSO missile launcher makes all other weapons irrelevant for the next 2 levels. You still can't craft more, because they require a level 3 component dongle for Exotic components, but if you get GSO 5 blocks, for example, they have no components in them. (But I don't want to use them in my YouTube campaign because I want it to be a general purpose guide...)

    Well, you have some inspiration for # 17 now...;)

    I don't see any YouTubers using this ability, still. (I talked Gaming Authority into it, for example.) Hence my next video (I'm now editing) is on this topic, fittingly.

     
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  4. ZeroGravitas

    ZeroGravitas Breaker of Games

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    Right, this is something I've never really looked into much, though. I mean, I don't hold much stock in scrapping blocks to fill Silo arrays with Components: In theory, the ingredients for every block can be taken from other different blocks. But Seed AIs are only found in missiles (or even rarer mobile delivery canons, mobile SCUs, etc), so to make the vaunted Cruise missiles, you'd have to scrap twice as many missiles of a different type (they have 2 seed AI, hence their cost).

    But if there are actually a bunch of common blocks, that you don't want, which scrap for the components of a Seed AI, then you might make a scrapping/hybrid base with a single (?) Component Factory, which can make useful blocks you want, without scrapping things you'd rather keep... (But probably still needs very detailed usage instructions compared to just making everything from base resources.)

     
  5. Khaine

    Khaine Well-Known Member

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    The whole level locked, level X on items flew right over my head.. Just kept killing GSOs and watching the reputation levels go up and finding new parts to play with. Crafty Mike was always one or two steps behind for me when it came to offering up new parts.

     
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  6. ZeroGravitas

    ZeroGravitas Breaker of Games

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    Yeah, "one or two steps..." (and I'd been fast tracking his mission chain too):

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    To be fair, the pacing was fine in my first playthrough (when I didn't use crafting at all because it was too broken for me to figure it out alone).

    Oops, apologies for going off thread topic...:oops:

     
  7. layer1

    layer1 Well-Known Member

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    Seed AIs are tough since there aren't any commonly found items that are based on Erudite. Maybe Hawkeye AC + Hawkeye fuel cell to get most of what you need, but neither are super common drops. Besides, no sane individual would want to scrap an Autocannon anyways. :D

    That's not a problem in any thread I make. :)

     
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  8. layer1

    layer1 Well-Known Member

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    So I noticed that you posted this tech else again, or something very like it. Is the collecter->4 silos your concept? I'm definitely going to use that in the future.

     
  9. ZeroGravitas

    ZeroGravitas Breaker of Games

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    I'm sorry I don't remember if/where I got the idea from (probably osmosed into my brain from somewhere...). But you can credit me if that's where you first saw it.;)

     
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  10. ZeroGravitas

    ZeroGravitas Breaker of Games

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    I finally did it (mid section 7 of the guide). Added some quick arrows over your original diagram, for clarity (unfortunately obscured some of the Dongles...:oops:):

    2018-07-02 Gluon Beam sub-Component sceduling diagram1.jpg

     
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  11. ARES IV

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    This is very helpfull guys , thank you.

     
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  12. Deutsche Würfel

    Deutsche Würfel I look good in this dress.

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    This won't work. The third CF, the one making the heating coil does not have it's input connected.
    Nor do the others.

     
  13. ZeroGravitas

    ZeroGravitas Breaker of Games

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    Heh, yeah. There's not even any entry point for resource chunks!:p Hence I wrote under it, in my guide:


     
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    Today I'll work with a smaller, faster scrapper that has no filters!

    BEHOLD (In my best Crafty voice)

    I'll build some nice Hawkeye cruise missiles that I have absolutely no use for.

    fab overview.jpg

    A couple of points: Since I have the fab on the ground with the order for Cruise missiles placed, I can see the recipe without worrying about it stealing parts since it's not attached to the fab tech.

    Second, working from most to least complex prevents the CFs from stealing components I already made. If I build fuel injectors first, a CF will swipe one when I build the Thermo Jet. Working from right to left in the ingredient list prevents any of that from occurring.

    Having the Venture scrappers sets perpendicular is kind of a pain since manually feeding them can be a bit dicey, but I'm going for compactness and speed over ease of use. Rotating the view and feeding the scrappers isn't too difficult.

    First off, a double order of Seed AIs. Again, I'll work from most to least complex and build the Coffman cell. When I set the recipe in the Tier 2-3 CF, it shows me the recipe: Ion Pulse cell and a Sensory Transmitter.

    Ion Pulse cells ready to go - A double order since two sets of Seed AIs are needed:

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    Let that run, then finish it off with a Sensory Transmitter.



     
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    layer1 Well-Known Member

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    All that's left after that is two sets of Mother Brains, then combining them with Coffman Cells to make the Seed AIs.

    seedAI.jpg

    Follow that by crafting parts for Thermo Jets. Only one set of these is needed.

    Cyclone Jets

    cyclonejets.png

    Then Hard Light drives and Thermo Jets can be crafted simultaneously.

    hardlight_and_finish.jpg

    Following that are Ion Pulse cells (which are already shown above for the Coffman Cells, so I'll skip them) and then.. Then I'm going make the Fuel Injectors last for two reasons. For one, Titanic Alloy is more complex but is shown out of order in the recipe--armor components are listed first in recipes for some reason--but more important is that 2x Fuel Injectors are needed and I like to save the biggest order for last. [continued]

     
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    I'll skip Titanic Alloy because it's the same deal as everything else. Set the recipes, add the number of resource blocks equal to what each CF needs and let it run.

    In the last step (2x Fuel Injectors) I can add the fab, set the recipe and let it go to town making Cruise Missiles.



    I guess they won't fire if attached sideways to a CF. Bummer.

     
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  17. ZeroGravitas

    ZeroGravitas Breaker of Games

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    Aw, cool. A video demo showing off the max pace you can spit out Cruise Missiles!
    I think that you just have to wait for a full firing cool-down, after attachment, before they'll first fire. (Not sure if it was always that way.)

    Will you do a video showing the whole process for crafting? (I mean, you're most the way there now... ;):p)

     

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