[1.0.2] Undocumented featurs/block changes

MrTwister

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A number of things suddenly behave differently/became broken with the new stable:

1) GSO Megaton collision boxes suddenly changed and cannons which were perfectly able to fire over each other or next to each other (if placed in 1-block "stepped" configuration horizontally or vertically) through the entire series of previous releases no longer can do that.

Now projectiles from rear guns collide with the guns at the front - never was the case before.

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2) Venture Monster Truck wheel severely nerfed - moves in straight line like it used to, but turning ability greatly reduced - change of trajectory immediately drops tech speed to 15-18pmh. And the tech in general feels extremely clunky to turn. Behaved very differently in all previous patches. Funny enough Titan wheel still behaves normally.

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3) Hawkeye Tank Track - approximately the same as above - greatly reduced turning ability and huge drop of speed to any attempts to steer. Barely able to turn at all. Unlike the above not a recent changed - became nerfed some time afte 0.7.9 patch.

Probably more to come.
 

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One thing they could do to help steering is make the wheels axis all meet at a single point, rather than have them all turn to their maximum angle. This way, the innermost wheels are more aligned with their direction of motion. It won't make a huge difference, but it would still help. And it would look much more reasonable.
 

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I agree about the Venture Monster Truck Wheels. I've constructed a number of techs using 8 Monster Truck Wheels and am experiencing the same thing. In addition there is also a noticeable reduction on their forward speed.

Something seems to also be occurring with the Venture Original Springer Wheels. Techs with 8 Springer Wheels that could turn very quickly in place turn very slow after the update. Again there is a loss of forward speed. :(
 

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Hey there Mr.Twister, thanks for letting us know about these changes.

Looks like someone changed the collision mesh for the Megaton cannon and the projectile is hitting it.

The wheel control system was refactored recently, so there may be issues with some wheels or configurations, i'll look into the VEN monster truck wheels and the HE tank treads.

Could you provide a snapshot where you believe the VEN Springer wheels are misbehaving please?

Thanks guys!
 

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Hey there Mr.Twister, thanks for letting us know about these changes.

Looks like someone changed the collision mesh for the Megaton cannon and the projectile is hitting it.

The wheel control system was refactored recently, so there may be issues with some wheels or configurations, i'll look into the VEN monster truck wheels and the HE tank treads.

Could you provide a snapshot where you believe the VEN Springer wheels are misbehaving please?

Thanks guys!
Yeah I'll send an example with Springer a little later.

Another thing I'd suggest looking into is the turn speed of HE HG-1 Tank Turret.
A few patches ago it was fine, but after 0.7.9 its turn rate was nerfed so badly that even my biggest techs are turning 4-5 times faster than the turret is able to aim. This makes HG-1 an unfavourable choice, especially in the endgame as its barely usable.

I will send you a couple examples of that to see what I mean.
 

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Yeah I'll send an example with Springer a little later.

Another thing I'd suggest looking into is the turn speed of HE HG-1 Tank Turret.
A few patches ago it was fine, but after 0.7.9 its turn rate was nerfed so badly that even my biggest techs are turning 4-5 times faster than the turret is able to aim. This makes HG-1 an unfavourable choice, especially in the endgame as its barely usable.

I will send you a couple examples of that to see what I mean.
check out the gso cab plating, it's not letting the cab shoot!
 

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Here are two videos of the Springer Wheel behavior in version 1.0.2. I apologize I don't have any video from earlier versions for comparison.

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